Mondays with Mike: In a roundabout way…

March 29, 2021 • Posted in Mike Knezovich, Mondays with Mike, radio, Uncategorized by

Back when we could still do such things, we took Wisconsin Highway 26 on the last leg of our journeys to visit our son Gus in Watertown. A few years ago, the State of Wisconsin redid a stretch of that highway: Lanes were added and eventually, instead of a ramp and a traffic light, we took a ramp and a … roundabout … and after that, another roundabout instead of a second traffic light.

Carmel, Indiana is proud of its roundabouts, as it should be.

It was a bit jarring at first, but I’ve come to love the things. I’ve found I’m not alone, and for very good reason: roundabouts make tons of sense.

This I learned during a typical Sunday radio day, when Beth and I listen to On the Media and then Freakonomics Radio on WBEZ, our local NPR affiliate. I’m pretty sure I could just listen to both those programs once a week without any other news media and not be the worse for it.

Anyway, Freakonomics is hosted by Steven Dubner, the co-author of the enormously popular “Freakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything.” The other author was Steven Levitt, an economist at the University of Chicago.

The radio show takes measure and novel looks at about…everything, all through the lens of economics. Yesterday they focused on roundabouts!

The episode is titled “Should Traffic Lights Be Abolished?” and by the time it was over, my answer was pretty much, “Absolutely.”

For one thing, they’re safe. From a transcript of the episode:

As we noted earlier, about a quarter of all crash fatalities happen at intersections. So how do roundabout and non-roundabout intersections differ on fatalities? Looking at U.S. crash data from 2017 to 2019, you see that 0.1 percent of crashes at roundabouts result in a death. That could be the death of a driver, passenger, pedestrian, cyclist, anyone. 0.1-percent: that’s 1 death per 1,000 crashes at roundabouts. Okay, and how about your standard, four-way intersection, with traffic lights or stop signs? The death rate there is 0.4 percent, or 4 deaths per 1,000 crashes.

Jim Brainard, the Mayor of Carmel, Indiana, an Indianapolis suburb (and—who knew?—the epicenter of the U.S. roundabout movement) says it’s simple:

Roundabouts are smaller and because they’re smaller, everybody has to drive through them slowly. It’s about speed.

But there’s more. Because vehicles don’t sit and idle at stop signs or lights, roundabouts save energy and reduce carbon emissions.

From the transcript:

Studies by transportation scholars have found that converting a standard intersection to a roundabout does significantly cut fuel consumption and carbon emissions. Transportation scholars point to yet another advantage of roundabouts: smoother traffic. Now, that might seem counterintuitive — at least it did to me when I first looked at this research. You’d think that the slow speed required by a roundabout — which is good for safety — would be bad for traffic flow. But the data say otherwise. The data say that roundabouts reduce congestion.

That’s because traffic lights are programmed for maximum efficiency for a small window of time—morning rush plus evening rush. The rest of the time not so much.

In addition, traffic never just stops. It slows, but it flows. A friend of ours who spends a lot of time in Door County, a major tourist draw from Wisconsin and Chicagoland, told me the roundabout up there made an enormous difference. It used to be that traffic would back up a mile or more at a key stoplight intersection. Not so anymore.

The episode of Freakonomics is brilliant, especially if, like me, you have ever wondered about just how much a traffic signal costs, how much it weighs, and other geeky stuff. Give it a listen.

If not, well, drive safely.

P.S. Roundabouts and rotaries are not the same thing.

Jean Thompson On March 29, 2021 at 6:06 pm

I was in Carmel for an event and was given a ride back to the hotel by a staffer who had possibly been drinking and kept stopping in the middle of the roundabouts to figure them out. Kind of put me off the roundabout cheering section.

Larry Melton On March 29, 2021 at 6:13 pm

ILOVE ROUNDABOUTS PERIOD. Was that to loud?

Lola On March 29, 2021 at 7:47 pm

I just finished an essay I’ll read at Beth’s class starting April 8. It’s about learning to drive in England. We are also proponents of roundabouts. However, they do need some polite drivers which are more prevalent there than here. And even in England some roundabouts now have stop lights. The bigger they are and the more cars passing through, the more likely are stop lights. Sometimes only working at rush hour. The most ridiculous roundabout we’ve seen in the U.S. is a small one that is really an intersection from a road into subdivisions. It has 4-way stop signs!!! My husband goes crazy every time we encounter it.

Jennifer Fischer On March 29, 2021 at 9:55 pm

Mike – the roundabout(s) in Door County have made a difference. We need a few more. Green Bay is addicted to roundabouts. In one section of south Green Bay there are so many of them close together, I start to get a little motion sickness by the end!!😉
Glad you and Beth are well and safe!
XO “the other” Jenny fischer

Dean On March 29, 2021 at 10:51 pm

I ❤️ roundabouts!!

Tracy On March 30, 2021 at 8:22 am

If traffic never stops, how does a blind pedestrian get across the street? Do I have to count on crazed drivers to give me an opening, and on my dog in case what I thought was an opening wasn’t? How does it work?

mknezo2014 On March 30, 2021 at 3:08 pm

That’s a very good question. I believe there are crosswalks and pedestrians retain right of way.

Mary Rayis On March 30, 2021 at 9:30 am

I’ve always hated roundabouts and thought they were pointless. But having to drive in Michigan, I’ve gotten used to them and they do seem to make more sense than having people come to a dead stop at traffic lights. Here in Sarasota, they are in the process of transforming large portions of the major road called Tamiami Trail by adding roundabouts. Time will tell if they make a difference to the typical gridlock in this resort town. But people need to get used to using them and understanding the rights of way on them. I got honked at belligerently recently as I made my way around one. The driver didn’t realize that he had the yield sign, and I had the right of way. Thanks for the post, Mike. I’m planning on listening to the Freakonomics episode soon!

mknezo2014 On March 30, 2021 at 3:07 pm

I think they take some getting used to. The podcast has survey results–basically, before there is overwhelming opposition. A month after it shades positive and then far out it’s very positive.

Sheila A. Donovan On March 30, 2021 at 9:46 am

I grew up in Hollywood, IL – a section of Brookfield. We had roundabouts way back in caveman days, the early 1950s. They were built to slow traffic down, instead of cars zooming through the area. in the early 1950s. We were able to play, basically undisturbed, in the streets. In 1959, it was a big deal when they built a big roundabout at 8-corners. (Yes EIGHT corners) Miss America 1959 -Maryanne Mobley – made an appearance at the opening. I think that was Brookfield’s second proudest moment. The proudest being the opening of the Brookfield Z00.

mknezo2014 On March 30, 2021 at 3:05 pm

How bout that!

Benita L Black On March 31, 2021 at 11:31 am

I had always thought that the difference between ROUNDABOUT, ROTARY, and TRAFFIC CIRCLE was purely regional. Your post-script has whetted my linguistic curiosity, Mike. What’s the dif?

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